I have nothing against
GOOGLE, therefore I will go along with the majority. However, I would like
to suggest that we add a couple of legal clauses for our own mutual
protection. The following are in layman's language, not legalese.
Some modification to the wording will probably be required.
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Subject: RE: Fw: Important Message:
SEAINT Continues on LinkedIn SEAOSCgroup
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groups gets my vote. It seems like it provides a nice flexibility of
keeping the e-mail format for those of us who want that, but also allows
reading and posting through a Web interface, similar to what would be done
with the LinkedIn group, for those who prefer that mode. I believe the
desire to have everything archived for a later search would also be
From: David Cohen
(Baran Raviv) [mailto:dcohen(--nospam--at)barviv.co.il]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29,
2012 10:55 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org; seaint(--nospam--at)psfeg.com;
Subject: Re: Fw: Important Message: SEAINT Continues
on LinkedIn SEAOSCgroup
I suggest that each one send in one/two words his preferable option. a kind of vote for the continuing forum format.
1-LinkedIn (a new group has to be created since both of them there seems to be fake)
2- Google group (we need a volountary manager to create it and manage the new registered engineers)
3-Nothing new-everyone will take himself to the forum he wants to be.
4- Facebook (why not?- to create a new facebook member we dont need almost nothing )
Lets vote for one of these options at the end of your day (since here Im at 05/30 - 6:54AM )
I apologize if this shows up
twice, it didn't seem to go the first time.
List Members, Casey,
I think the list is a valuable
resource and would hate to see
it discontinued. It raises some
questions that I think many on the
list are interested in.
Is there a date that the plug will be pulled on
the servers that now host the list and the archives?
What is the supporting
organization? SEAINT? SEAOSC? SEAOC?
Is the intention
that the list
would be a self-supporting independent thing?
plans to move the list a second time to a Linkedin SEAINT group in the
A search of Linkedin on May 29 shows that there are two SEAINT
groups on Linkedin; SEAINT owned by Shiraz Shahid
(a development manager
based in Pakistan) with 24 members, and
Association-International owned by
Williston L. Warren, IV - S.E., SECB
(a structural engineer based in
California) with 2 members.
As for the legal questions raised by David,
who owns the copyrights on the material now?
If the list moved to Linkedin
or Google, would Linkedin or Google own copyrights to the content? If
so, so what?
Would members be able to continue to post the archives to
Mark Johnson PE
--- On Tue,
5/29/12, h.d.richardson <h.d.richardson(--nospam--at)telus.net> wrote:
Subject: Fw: Important
Message: SEAINT Continues on LinkedIn SEAOSC group
Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 7:31
Attached is a
copy of an
e-mail sent to me by my son regarding my earlier
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Sent: Tuesday, May
29, 2012 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: Important Message: SEAINT Continues on
There are a couple
issues with what is going on
Firstly, the management
of the list had decided
that the LinkedIn forums are apropriate for their
content. This brings up
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