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Re: [2] Important Message: SEAINT Continues on LinkedIn SEAOSC group

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If they don't want/can't go this route, then if SEAOSC is OK with someone creating a "SEAINT" Google group, then I am willing to create it and get the ball rolling on it.

Regards,

Scott

On May 31, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Tarek Mokhtar wrote:

> Bill,
> 
> I believe SEASC can create the google group account and own/manage 
> it, and it appears that this format would be identical to the current 
> listserver . Could you please consider this option?
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Tarek Mokhtar, SE
> TMM Structural Engineers, Inc
> 31645 S. Coast Hwy
> Laguna Beach, CA., 92651
> 949-499-6254
> 949-499-2777 Fax
> 
> 
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> 
>> Bill and the list
>> 
>> We are trying to offer options because the listserver as we know it
>> presently is not going to continue for several reasons, including expense
>> and technology.
>> 
>> We are interested in option ideas but SEAOSC has fronted the expense and
>> also managed the listserver, we are also trying to offer alternatives with
>> current software and processes
>> 
>> The group can choose to migrate to whatever format they desire, but we are
>> talking about options where SEAOSC can continue to participate and assist.
>> 
>> My earlier posts, were discussing the archive, the vehicle the group chooses
>> is their choice, the archive is the SEAOSC Board, and I will assist in
>> making it available
>> 
>> The fate of the listserver is that it will end soon, the group needs to
>> decide what they are going to do, the listserver is being kept up so that
>> decision can be made, but make it quickly.
>> 
>> We have made Linkedin options available because we can be involved in the
>> management, whereas the others we may not
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
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>> Newport Beach, California
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: T. William (Bill) Allen, S.E. [mailto:Bill(--nospam--at)AllenDesigns.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 19:43
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>> Cc: 'Williston L. Warren, IV-SE, SECB'
>> Subject: RE: [2] Important Message: SEAINT Continues on LinkedIn SEAOSC
>> group
>> 
>> Casey -
>> 
>> Have you been following the dialog on this listserv? I can't recall anyone
>> favoring LinkedIn or Facebook as a substation for the listserv.
>> 
>> Wouldn't it be better to get a consensus including gathering the opinions of
>> those who actually use the medium for engineering discussions?
>> 
>> It wasn't too long ago that Bill Warren addressed the list and essentially
>> said he would make happen whatever the users wanted. Did you include Bill
>> Warren in your discussions?
>> 
>> Based on what I've read on the list, it appears to me that the more vocal
>> users would like to try Google. I know NOTHING of that technology, but it
>> seems to be the preference of the users. I believe the feature they like the
>> best is the push technology instead of the pull technology of LinkedIn or
>> Facebook.
>> 
>> Is this decision cast in stone or can you and your group reconsider the
>> direction SEAOSC will take in this matter?
>> 
>> Thank you for all of your contributions to the association and the
>> profession.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> 
>> T. William (Bill) Allen, S.E. (CA #S2607)
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Casey K. Hemmatyar [mailto:seaint(--nospam--at)psfeg.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:19 PM
>> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
>> Subject: [2] Important Message: SEAINT Continues on LinkedIn SEAOSC group
>> 
>> Dear SEAINT List Server members:
>> 
>> Over the past few days the Board of Directors and President of SEAOSC have
>> read your valuable comments posted here. We appreciate your comments and
>> suggestions and we offer the following comments/responses;
>> - The list server maintenance cost for SEAOSC has been very significant each
>> year. Although it may seem a simple automated task, it does require a
>> substantial amount of professional work. This work was carried out by an
>> outside (SEAOSC) software firm.
>> - We are currently working on the best way to make sure that the SEAINT
>> archive is not lost and to disseminate its contents.  Once that is complete,
>> we will announce via SEAOSC Group on LinkedIn.
>> - As the manager of the LinkedIn SEAOSC group, I will review the new
>> membership requests and will try to process them promptly and on a daily
>> basis.
>> - Posting a comment on LinkedIn is very easy.  Here are the steps;
>> 1- Sign up for a LinkedIn account by visiting www.linkedin.com. If you
>> already have an account with LinkedIn please go to item 6 below.
>> 2- When filling out the pages on the 2nd step, LinkedIn may ask asks for
>> your Email and Password. You may want to bypass this step by clicking the on
>> the "Skip this step" on the bottom left hand side. If you do not bypass,
>> Linkedin will access your email contacts and will send invitations on your
>> behalf inviting them to join you on LinkedIn.
>> 3- Next in a few seconds you will receive an email from LinkedIn containing
>> a link. You'll click on this link to confirm your email address.
>> 4- Next step will ask you to add new contacts. Again you may bypass this
>> step by clicking the on the "Skip this step" on the bottom right hand side.
>> 5- Steps 4, 5 and 6 will ask you to follow some optional instructions, but
>> you may bypass by clicking the on the "Skip this step". If you wish you may
>> also click on "Skip" icon on the pages that follows, in order to bypass
>> completion of your Profile.
>> 6- At this stage come back to this email and click on this link
>> http://goo.gl/mNJhY (shortened url link for ease of use)
>> 7- Now click on "Join Group" icon to request your membership to SEAOSC
>> "Structural Engineers Association of Southern California". 
>> 8- At this stage, volunteers at SEAOSC will process new membership requests
>> promptly.
>> 9- Once you become member, on your LinkedIn home page, click on the "Groups"
>> tab on the top. Click on the SEAOSC group, and then you can see all of the
>> conversations taking place. 
>> 10- To start a new discussion, type in your question/issue at the top of the
>> screen.  To read another discussion, just click on it. To post a comment in
>> an existing discussion, just type in at the bottom of the discussion. To
>> Search past and archive discussions click on the "Search" tab on the top.
>> 
>> We are looking forward to the continued discussions on all matters of
>> structural engineering.
>> Best Regards
>> Casey K. Hemmatyar, S.E.
>> SEAOSC Director
>> 
>> ****************************************************************************
>> *****
>> Additionally, I'd like to request you to please see the following comments
>> from Janah Risha, S.E. our SEAOSC President with respect to the List Server:
>> 
>> As you may know the SEAINT.ORG website and SEAINT list serve are owned and
>> have been maintained by the Structural Engineers Association of Southern
>> California (SEAOSC).  The List Server has served the members and the
>> profession well for more than 10 years now.  However, its usefulness has
>> been waning with the new communication tools available today such as
>> LinkedIn.  Subsequently, the SEAOSC Board of Directors has decided to
>> utilize the LinkedIn platform in order to continue the technical discussions
>> that currently reside the SEAINT List Server.
>> By the same token I am pleased to announce that the SEAOSC LinkedIn
>> discussion group is well established now and is becoming very active.  Its
>> membership is increasingly growing and presently we are at about 1,000
>> members. Many of us in the group are California registered Structural
>> Engineers and are available for thought sharing and technical contributions.
>> There are many active discussions and beneficial topics being posted on
>> daily basis. We strongly encourage you to join LinkedIn and join the
>> Structural Engineers Association of Southern California discussion group
>> (http://goo.gl/mNJhY)
>> I want to take this opportunity to thank all who have posted and all who
>> have answered the posts over the years.   I am sure that the exchange of
>> information has been and will continue to be useful to all concerned and I
>> look forward to your participation in the LinkedIn discussion group.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Janah Risha, S.E.
>> SEAOSC President, 2011-2012
>> 
>> 
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