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Chuck -
Personally, I would prefer to hear more of what you have to say, 
snarky-ness aside. I can tell you, like I, try to avoid the politics which 
has brought down every incarnation of this list. I personally believe that 
no one on this list will have their political or religious opinion's 
changed because of someone's post.

I would like to suggest that, short of banning such offenders from this 
list, to please just ignore the idiot(s). As the saying goes, they will 
bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

T. William (Bill) Allen, S.E. (CA #2607)
University of Southern California, M.S.C.E., 1983
University of Texas at El Paso, B.S.C.E., 1977

Consulting Structural Engineers
32302 Camino Capistrano, #206
San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675
V (949) 248-8588•F (949) 209-2509

-----Original Message-----
From: seaint-seaosc(--nospam--at) [mailto:seaint-seaosc(--nospam--at)] On 
Behalf Of Chuck Utzman Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:33 PM
To: seaint-seaosc(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: [SEAINT-SEAOSC] Advanced Framing - residences

Sigh. I was drafting a more substantive reply  (& an apology for my snarky 
initial reply) to Bill--& here comes this crap again. I have the experience 
 of  20 years as a G.C. on wood framed construction, 20 years as a C.E/ & 
M.E., & 7 years of forensic work) one Smart Framed house  behind me,  45 
years in Marin Co. (a hot-house for the Green movement), & 6 years as a 
Planning Commissioner where I reviewed Green Build Ordinances. I think I 
have much to share on the subject (much of which is very critical of the 
Green stuff I've seen), however, I was reluctant to engage on the subject 
for this very reason. Some jack-ass specifically invited Polhemus here to 
re-start the political rants  that were so poisonous on our last site. So 
here is my question for our new web admistrator.
*Are we going to have a strict ban on political & religous postings here or 
*I've got way better places to discuss politics than here. If this is going 
 to be a place for political rants, I'll not waste my time here. Chuck 
Utzman, P.E.

On 9/20/2012 10:20 AM, Bill Polhemus wrote:
> "Going green" means "lining the pockets of Obama donors with green."

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