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OK, following a suggestion to ignore the j..s bulls...t,  let's talk about 
advanced framing.

My question is this: just because the framers were building stud walls on 
16 centers and never cared about lining up joists and studs is that good 
enough reason to continue what we have been doing for "30 years", and in 
this case much longer than that? What about using rim joists in lieu of 

Are these things simply not practicle enough and will require too much 
oversight?   So if it doesn't save money on the project now,  because the 
contractor is inexperienced in this sort of thing,  why not do it anyway to 
 continue the trend,  train contractors,  save resources,  etc.   If the 
owner and architect are for it,  they won't have to convince me.

I agree with previous posters,  a reconstruction meeting is a must. 
Perhaps an introductory letter to the bidding contractors and a 
preselection interviews are in order.   But in general,  I feel it is a 
good thing and it will happen with or without some of us who like to 


Sasha Itsekson,  SE
Oakland,  CA

> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:31:37 -0700

> From: "T. William \(Bill\) Allen, S.E."

> Subject: RE: Advanced Framing - residences


> Chuck -

> Personally, I would prefer to hear more of what you have to say,

> snarky-ness aside. I can tell you, like I, try to avoid the politics 
> which

> has brought down every incarnation of this list. I personally believe 
> that

> no one on this list will have their political or religious opinion's

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