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I hope he didn't seriously tell the architect that "the wind blows 

I always tell my mentees that we're talking not about wind FORCES but wind 

William L. Polhemus, Jr. P.E.


On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Davis Parsons <davisp2(--nospam--at)> wrote:

> Carl,
> You need to send in your discussion and complaints on AISC 341 to the 
> secretary of the Committee so that it can get on an agenda for 
> discussion. The email address is duncan(--nospam--at) Davis Parsons
> New Email Program Test
> On 4/10/2013 4:02 PM, Carl W. Jenne, P.E. wrote:
>> In Florida we've already adopted ASCE 7-10.  The revised wind provisions
>> with its different wind speeds have been a real hassle to explain to
>> architects.
>> Architect:  "What's the wind speed in that location?"  Us:  "It depends.
>> The wind blows harder on a hospital than it does on an office building."
>> In order to save us the trouble of multiplying by 1.15 they increased 
>> the physical size of the code and opened a can of worms.  Ever try to 
>> explain mean recurrence intervals to an architect?
>> Having said that, it's not within our power to refuse to go along.  All 
>> we can do is kvetch. Though Florida doesn't have seismic problems (by 
>> legislative fiat) we also design in other locations.  Here's a 

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