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Hi Lloyd


1)  Amount of cope 4"?  Can you add a shear stiffener to the new beam if 4" 
 is enough for bending?

2)  Or, at the ex. girder weld or bolt stiffener to ex. web to attach to web 
 of new beam.

3)  But you might have torsion on the ex. beam ... so top idea might be the 

4)  Can the ex. beam take the new loads?

5) I agree separate brace system wouldn't be unreasonable.

Thor A. Tandy P.Eng, C.Eng, Struct.Eng, MIStructE, FEC
Victoria, BC
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-----Original Message-----
From: seaint-seaosc(--nospam--at) [mailto:seaint-seaosc(--nospam--at)] On 
Behalf Of Lloyd Sent: April-30-14 11:46 AM
To: seaint-seaosc(--nospam--at)
Subject: [SEAINT-SEAOSC] Beam to Girder Connection Problem

Hello List,

I've got a project that I've got to replace some rotting roof beams with new 
 steel beams.  The existing beams are wood beams 10.5" x 10.5".  The client 
 wants to add a beam hoist to the underside of the new steel roof beams. 
The new load makes the new steel beams deeper than the 10.5" that the old 
beams had.

The problem is that the wood beams sat on top of a steel girder.  Now I've 
got to come up with a connection that can transfer the load from the new 
steel beams to the girder.

I'm looking at a W14x68 for the new beams.

I was thinking that I might use a single-plate shear connector attached to 
the top of the girder and bolt the W14's web to the shear connector, and 
cope the bottom of the beam to fit around the top flange of the girder.

What, if any, problems to you see with this connection/situation.
I've not coped the bottoms of a beam in a beam/girder connection before,

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